Eric took the liberty of blogging this.

Kaliya: I don't like Art Coviello's thing about passive authentication. I don't want them watching me. I want control.

Eric: ok - but passive authentication is already happening all the time - and its *preventing* identity fraud.

Kaliya: yea - but that's not the way it should be done.

Eric: I agree, but would you have them turn it off immediately and watch fraud go up?

Kaliya: No, I'd have them change the way they do it.

Eric: I agree, but that can't happen overnight - so in the meantime, would you have them turn it off and have fraud go up?

Kaliya: ugh.