Identity Faire? just come to IIW

David Kerns proposes an “Identity Faire”

Now, I do agree that we need more conferences of this type. We do have them in North America – things like Courion’s Converge, the Internet Identity Workshops and NetPro’s Directory Experts Conference come to mind

He forgets two more conferences DIDW and Burton Group Catalyst has a significant Identity component and Gartner had and Identity and Access Management Summit.

This idea was inspired by this comment by Symlabs’ Chief Architect Felix Gaehtgens.

He recently dropped me a note to tell me about a European Identity conference he’d attended, and what he found unique about it. In his own words:

“Last week, I was at the 1st European Identity Conference in Munich. This conference is organized by Kuppinger + Cole, a German Identity Analyst group. We know that a lot of new ID Conferences are springing up, since ID management is a hot topic, and many organizers are trying to cash in on numerous conferences out there. However, this conference had something truly unique.

“So what made this conference stand out? First of all, the scope of the presentations. This was something completely new that I haven’t seen before. Most conferences pitch (exclusively, unfortunately) to the CxOs, management and decision makers, and are therefore kept to the high level. This conference also addressed those needs with overviews, workshops and user/case study presentations. HOWEVER, and this is what I liked about it, this was the first conference (in my opinion) that had a broader scope by also addressing the needs of those techies and geeks that roam these types of conferences.

“There were several presentations and workshops that were very technical and ‘hands-on’, going into the real guts of the technology and implementations. I’ve been to a presentation where a person from a German bank talked about how to integrate Kerberos between Unix and Windows. That presentation was fantastic, and very lively. You could feel the electricity in the air with all those geeks like me talking technology. Then there was a real ‘how-to’ workshop on how to boot-strap the Liberty ID-WSF (Web Services Foundation) using two different implementations using a practical example and showing how everything fits together.”

Many of the Identity Gang / Commons folks I spoke to about the conference said it was really just the same conference they keep going to. Talking heads on the range of identity topics. I would put forward that more conferences with talking heads are not needed but an expansion of conferences with cross cutting themes and industry players that come to the Internet Identity Workshop who – do work together.

[The current conferences are] generally organized around a particular vendor, product or technology rather than as part of a conference covering a broad spectrum of identity. Maybe what we really need is an identity fair (or “identitie faire”) with PowerPoint presentations for those who need them and hands-on labs for those who don’t. Something for everyone, under the big top. Not just a “dog-and-pony” show, but a real three ring circus. Who’ll step up and organize this?

Eugene Kim , Phil and I have been thinking about IIW and how to make improvements for next time. We welcome community input on how to make it better – so write us.

I am very clear that we need to systemically as a community have and execute a strategy to reach out to other pockets of folks explicitly doing “identity” work AND to our neighboring fields like Semantic Technology and get them involved in IIW. I think it was good that the ITU folks joined us at IIW this time. There was a call from the floor for more Lawyers next time. I would love to see some proactive outreach to those technical/professional identity communities who you see should be involved in a ‘faire’ being explicitly invited to IIW.

Arrington and Cantor live event comentary.

Marc always has a lot to say…Arrington..well he is opinionated and his own unique style of ‘moderating panels’ listening to these two audio back channel while listening to presentations…now that is interesting. They are planning to do this at Next Web in Amsterdam June 1. I hope they livecast this and share broadly.

I missed Marc’s presence at IIW. It would have been fun to have his reality check world view present. I have to say there was a tone of real work that got done at the event. It always amazes me the progress of the community at each event. Next time is going to be AMAZING. I hope that it gets on folks calendars.. IIW #5 will be Dec 3-5 and IIW #6 will be May 12-15 both at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View California. Also Phil and I are open to hosting Identity Open Spaces in conjunction with other conferences.

Energetics of Identity

This is from Ping Via Johannes and basically does a great job of sums up the energetics of what is going on in the identity-standards world. I am not ‘techincal in the sense that I can’t read spec’s and don’t write code. I do read simplified flow chart diagrams and understand the tech of identity. I know all the people involved. This was very very funny. I hope that by Burton some more interesting combinations can happen.

The IIW2007a Spoken Word: CommunityIdentityAuthenticity


This community…has its challenges.

Harnessing its own enthusiasm and energy to affect real change

It’s a challenge…

Moving together

despite differences in the details

Getting the populace to understand

what we can barely understand and


between ourselves

It’s a challenge…

Communicating the understanding and importance of internet identity

to the average member

of society

It’s a challenge…


Divergence versus Convergence

Policy evaluation privacy evaluation

I just feel like shouting out …

My life
My terms:
Choice, Privacy and Control !

Like shouting…

One hundred and eighty passwords — and counting — is too many !!


Where’s the money?!

We need to get out of the technology ivory tower!


V R M!

I feel like shouting

We are all painting variations on the same picture!

– and it is hard

to see

what the image is.

And then I think, if I were the user, I would say

Don’t rock the boat!

I would say

Keep it simple and make it just…work.

Keep it simple !!!

Why can’t you make this easier for me?

I would say…

What is actually happening here?

Here is what I wish for the future:

I wish it would .. “just work” … for users.

Here’s what I hope for:

Something my dad can use and not get phished.

Here is my dream:

That we get how to engage in real-value, consensual transactions

Here is my dream:

Breaking down power structures

safe and powerful for everyone

in all contexts

Becoming invisible

and indispensable


– by Mark Aiken, Kevin Turner, Brad Fitzpatrick, Eddie Codel, Peter Davis, Ajay Madhok, Mike Jones, Johannes Ernst, Joe Andrieu, Mark Lentczner, David Recordon, Henrik Biering, Drummond, Reed, V. Gale, Gerald Beuchett, heathervescent, Weston Triemstra, Martin Atkins, Steve Williams, Paul Bryan and Lisa Heft

This spoken word piece was the closing for the
Internet Identity Workshop
May 15, 2007 — Mountain View, California, USA, Earth